tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post2131496167881552395..comments2023-11-05T13:45:44.033+01:00Comments on Praguetory: Praguetory Schooldays Part TwoPraguetoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16520923731691837948noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-44771450822800722252007-02-15T10:35:00.000+01:002007-02-15T10:35:00.000+01:00For the record, I did mean dealers of cocaine and ...For the record, I did mean dealers of cocaine and heroin. Don't do absinthe either. Deadly stuff.Praguetoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16520923731691837948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-3451586850890634142007-02-15T10:28:00.000+01:002007-02-15T10:28:00.000+01:00pity those who feel the need to blow their mind? F...pity those who feel the need to blow their mind? From such a condescending attitude can we take it then that you have never even been drunk (a much more out of control state of mind than a spliff). If you have you are a hypocrite and if you haven't you are making judgements based on limited experiences out of touch with the vast majority (and by drunk i do not mean a part of blighty's binge drink culture).<BR/><BR/>I also think you confuse recreational drugs with the likes of crack and heroin and to say all dealers should be tried as attempted murderers-do you mean the guys who sell weed as well? what about the guy in the off license selling spirits to an alcoholic, is he a murderer too?- You seem to have the typically black and white viewpoint adopted by the those who feel morally superior for choosing not to do something and its that attitude that has stifled true debate on a complex issueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-32926783363722138642007-02-15T09:52:00.000+01:002007-02-15T09:52:00.000+01:00Prosecuting dealers attempted murder? That's absu...Prosecuting dealers attempted murder? That's absurd. What about personal responsibility? No one forces people to take drugs, they choose too. The dealer that sells is not attempting to murder his client that would begate his own business model.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-3207414796044402082007-02-15T08:25:00.000+01:002007-02-15T08:25:00.000+01:00Obviously I am not a libertarian on this issue. Mo...Obviously I am not a libertarian on this issue. Most of my political attitudes are based on personal experience (e.g. I have never thought about people I know who have got involved with drugs - "hey, that worked out well for you"), but drugs can be more than a personal tragedy - they blight whole communities. Legalisation has been attempted and the aborted in many places (e.g. Alaska). I'd prefer us to learn the easy way that that doesn't work. I would like us to take steps to undermine the drugs market - free heroin for addicts, prosecute dealers for attempted murder, catch a user and throw the book at them unless they finger their dealers. Highlighting the drawbacks of being caught for drugs (e.g. many countries imposing travel restrictions) would be good and so would developing an attitude of pity towards those who feel the need to blow their mind.Praguetoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16520923731691837948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-54375914002513187682007-02-15T08:00:00.000+01:002007-02-15T08:00:00.000+01:00The prohibition of drugs is idiotic in an open soc...The prohibition of drugs is idiotic in an open society.<BR/><BR/>The price on our liberties would be too great to enforce a no-drugs society. Libertarians, and those with common-sense should break this taboo that prevents politicians from talking about reality.<BR/><BR/>Drugs are a social ill, but the reality is they're impossible to prevent without a police state.Aaron Murin-Heathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11519231609156056620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-45466083755594156052007-02-15T07:20:00.000+01:002007-02-15T07:20:00.000+01:00This former pill popping speed freak who did a bon...This former pill popping speed freak who did a bong for breakfast says legalise, regulate, tax and remove a multi-billion pound criminal industry.<BR/><BR/>We as individual hold the ultimate ownership over our bodies, not the state. It should be up to us what we choose to subject them. It's called liberty.<BR/><BR/>Prohibition of drugs (a relatively new thing) - like previously with alcohol in the US - has comprehensively failed. <BR/><BR/>I'm yet to see a convincing moral argument against taking drugs. The only arguments that seem to exist are dodgy "slippery slope" fallacies and anecdotal personal tragedy argument.<BR/><BR/>Personal tragedys are though, just that. Tragic and personal, they cannot then be used to extrapolate general rules of what trying a spliff, doing a line, or taking a pill will do to you. <BR/><BR/>Some people will fuck their lives up with drugs, others will not. Just as some people will fuck their lives up with alcohol, but I don't hear anyone calling for that to be made illegal, and frankly that shows the utter baselessness of the anti-drugs position.<BR/><BR/>And before anyone asked, no I don't take drugs anymore. I have a job and a family so I had to stop all that shit. Plus it made me a bit crazy for a while.dizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-43947958285322788262007-02-15T05:19:00.000+01:002007-02-15T05:19:00.000+01:00I `m not sure I agree about drugs P. I `m sure the...I `m not sure I agree about drugs P. I `m sure there are risks but these are largely the consequence of drugs being illegal and unregulated.<BR/><BR/>I can think of tragedies myself usually involving motorbikes. Would you ban them ? would you ban dangerous sport , would you , in short , assert , that the state owns your life.<BR/><BR/>I cansee there is balance but Conservatives do tend to look rather ridiculous harrumphing about soft drugs when the entire cou try either uses them or has done.<BR/><BR/>Well dodne to you for being the class Tory. I was as well although not in aterribly comited way. I was nicknamed Neuremberg in honour of the trial some felt should be facingNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-88962953702524365482007-02-14T23:52:00.000+01:002007-02-14T23:52:00.000+01:00I know one Tory candidate in the forthcoming Welsh...I know one Tory candidate in the forthcoming Welsh Assembly elections who stood for the Communists in his school elections!Damon Lordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17060702905405453616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-78872704304629646112007-02-14T22:07:00.000+01:002007-02-14T22:07:00.000+01:001] Valentines Day duties. Yes.2] Me and my smal...1] Valentines Day duties. Yes.<BR/>2] Me and my small team - my small team and I<BR/>3] Good luck tonight.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-77426763021596419252007-02-14T19:55:00.000+01:002007-02-14T19:55:00.000+01:00Dave is spot on and has the benefit of knowing exa...Dave is spot on and has the benefit of knowing exactly what he's talking about. I, too, smoked cannabis in the late 70s / early 80s. It was pretty mild stuff. You got very giggly, noticed the most <I>amazing</I> bits of album soundtracks, and got very, er, hungry. I dropped it when I had a job that involved taking responsibility for other people's lives. Only one of my contemporaries took up the drugs life. He became quite psychotic. He could be the bloke selling the Big Issue these days - I wouldn't recognise him.<BR/><BR/>Just before the Millennium at an East end Private View I was foolish enough to take a proffered puff from an offered spliff. It almost knocked me out. Thank goodness I wasn't driving and the following day was Saturday. A discussion with friends revealed that over the past two decades the stuff had been selectively bred for terrible strength. It was the same sort of difference as between drinking a glass of sherry and half a litre of vodka.<BR/><BR/>Yes, reclassify it. It's nasty and dangerous. And far, far, too widely available. And destroys too many young lives.<BR/><BR/>And me? Only that one time since about 1982. And certainly never again.Raedwaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11699610899843349594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-1752916945206498442007-02-14T18:14:00.000+01:002007-02-14T18:14:00.000+01:00As I have not been here to read pt2 I can't say ve...As I have not been here to read pt2 I can't say very good star plus.<BR/>Apart from the occasional Asprin ,I do have an opinion on drugs but I would be denounced as a nutter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-20116679288842746622007-02-14T17:57:00.000+01:002007-02-14T17:57:00.000+01:00It's a sensible school you go to. In fairness, the...It's a sensible school you go to. In fairness, the Lib Dem candidate did a sterling job in our election. I think his smartest move was persuading the local PPC to come to the school.Praguetoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16520923731691837948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31552369.post-62621536988863570272007-02-14T17:31:00.000+01:002007-02-14T17:31:00.000+01:00Kids like Lib Dems? Really? At my last school elec...Kids like Lib Dems? Really? At my last school elections in 2005, it came:<BR/><BR/>1) Conservatives<BR/>2) UKIP<BR/>3) Lib-Dems<BR/>4) Labour<BR/>5) Greens<BR/><BR/>So far as I know, the gap between the Lib-Dem and UKIP candidates in terms of votes was pretty big.<BR/><BR/>It was no shock the Green candidate didn't win. Not only was he was in the lowest year, but one of his arguments was "We don't want nuclear fish".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com